Hey fellas!!! Just want to throw a big thanks out to Jeremy for his efforts to keep us abreast to the SR implosion. My reaction to the first bit of news I received the other day was "Jason?! No!! I can't believe it". It was good to hear the results of Jer's visit and all I have to say is I hope Jason can get this thing rolling again. I told him he could send my seats out anyway. Ha!!
Anyhow, I'm happy to see that someone made the effort to begin this forum. One of my first thoughts after the closure was that I had no contact info for most of you dorks that I enjoyed blogging with. Ha!!!
And......I still have no F'in clue as to what's going on! I hear bits and pieces and I don't trust anyone at this point! I'm not in the mood to call Jason or anyone at this point but I do know one thing......some peeps are pretty pissed off about MONEY that they donated and money that was donated to drivers for points in lieu of money paid to the driver for sponsorship. I also have heard some mention lawyers and suing, breech of contract.......etc. See where this cluster muck got to? It's a bad situation for many involved.
And......I still have no F'in clue as to what's going on! I hear bits and pieces and I don't trust anyone at this point! I'm not in the mood to call Jason or anyone at this point but I do know one thing......some peeps are pretty pissed off about MONEY that they donated and money that was donated to drivers for points in lieu of money paid to the driver for sponsorship. I also have heard some mention lawyers and suing, breech of contract.......etc. See where this cluster muck got to? It's a bad situation for many involved.
I still would like to believe that maybe someday SR will be back but I'm not going to hold my breath!
Well I agree that its tough to believe anyone, I also am big enough to say that I think your wise not to trust anyone right now. This is a big mess, and those that donated money towards a goal that was not realized have reason to be ticked off. Personally I dont see a lawsuit unless its a class action and the stakes would be more than the dollars not used. I say this because while to me it is a sizable amount of money I doubt that any lawyer would take the case IMO
I think SR will be back it will just be a matter of who is running it and if the name can be resurrected.
I have hung my personal opinion on Jason's side of this based off of how things fit together with everything else. I hope that I am right but it is a mess for sure. It would be nice to have some concrete evidence but I dont so i will have faith. For know that is all any of us can do, I just want to see at a minimum either the outstanding parts issued and dollars donated either used for the parts or returned if they were not used.
And......I still have no F'in clue as to what's going on! I hear bits and pieces and I don't trust anyone at this point! I'm not in the mood to call Jason or anyone at this point but I do know one thing......some peeps are pretty pissed off about MONEY that they donated and money that was donated to drivers for points in lieu of money paid to the driver for sponsorship. I also have heard some mention lawyers and suing, breech of contract.......etc. See where this cluster muck got to? It's a bad situation for many involved.
I still would like to believe that maybe someday SR will be back but I'm not going to hold my breath!
Well I agree that its tough to believe anyone, I also am big enough to say that I think your wise not to trust anyone right now. This is a big mess, and those that donated money towards a goal that was not realized have reason to be ticked off. Personally I dont see a lawsuit unless its a class action and the stakes would be more than the dollars not used. I say this because while to me it is a sizable amount of money I doubt that any lawyer would take the case IMO
I think SR will be back it will just be a matter of who is running it and if the name can be resurrected.
I have hung my personal opinion on Jason's side of this based off of how things fit together with everything else. I hope that I am right but it is a mess for sure. It would be nice to have some concrete evidence but I dont so i will have faith. For know that is all any of us can do, I just want to see at a minimum either the outstanding parts issued and dollars donated either used for the parts or returned if they were not used.
Jeremy
Jeremy
Well, I gave it some thought and decided to post this. I didn't really want to get into the "who's right and who's wrong" discussion, but some replies here have forced me to. You guys need to ask yourself, who built the website to where it is today(maybe not today, but you know what I mean)? Who befriended the racers who came to the forums? Who was on nearly every day answering questions? Why would Jason feel the need to jeopardize SR? You know the answers to these questions, and it should tell you who you should believe.
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 161 Location: Thomasville, NC
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:30 am Post subject:
tbr75 wrote:
polarcub wrote:
KBM17g wrote:
And......I still have no F'in clue as to what's going on! I hear bits and pieces and I don't trust anyone at this point! I'm not in the mood to call Jason or anyone at this point but I do know one thing......some peeps are pretty pissed off about MONEY that they donated and money that was donated to drivers for points in lieu of money paid to the driver for sponsorship. I also have heard some mention lawyers and suing, breech of contract.......etc. See where this cluster muck got to? It's a bad situation for many involved.
I still would like to believe that maybe someday SR will be back but I'm not going to hold my breath!
Well I agree that its tough to believe anyone, I also am big enough to say that I think your wise not to trust anyone right now. This is a big mess, and those that donated money towards a goal that was not realized have reason to be ticked off. Personally I dont see a lawsuit unless its a class action and the stakes would be more than the dollars not used. I say this because while to me it is a sizable amount of money I doubt that any lawyer would take the case IMO
I think SR will be back it will just be a matter of who is running it and if the name can be resurrected.
I have hung my personal opinion on Jason's side of this based off of how things fit together with everything else. I hope that I am right but it is a mess for sure. It would be nice to have some concrete evidence but I dont so i will have faith. For know that is all any of us can do, I just want to see at a minimum either the outstanding parts issued and dollars donated either used for the parts or returned if they were not used.
Jeremy
Jeremy
Well, I gave it some thought and decided to post this. I didn't really want to get into the "who's right and who's wrong" discussion, but some replies here have forced me to. You guys need to ask yourself, who built the website to where it is today(maybe not today, but you know what I mean)? Who befriended the racers who came to the forums? Who was on nearly every day answering questions? Why would Jason feel the need to jeopardize SR? You know the answers to these questions, and it should tell you who you should believe.
Well, I gave it some thought and decided to post this. I didn't really want to get into the "who's right and who's wrong" discussion, but some replies here have forced me to. You guys need to ask yourself, who built the website to where it is today(maybe not today, but you know what I mean)? Who befriended the racers who came to the forums? Who was on nearly every day answering questions? Why would Jason feel the need to jeopardize SR? You know the answers to these questions, and it should tell you who you should believe.[/quote]
You sir are very correct and that is why I feel the way I do. Great point.
Jeremy
Well, I gave it some thought and decided to post this. I didn't really want to get into the "who's right and who's wrong" discussion, but some replies here have forced me to. You guys need to ask yourself, who built the website to where it is today(maybe not today, but you know what I mean)? Who befriended the racers who came to the forums? Who was on nearly every day answering questions? Why would Jason feel the need to jeopardize SR? You know the answers to these questions, and it should tell you who you should believe.
that is for damn sure correct! way to go buddy!
couldnt have thought/said it any better!!!! _________________ Will, brian, and taylor, can chupar mi cojones
And......I still have no F'in clue as to what's going on! I hear bits and pieces and I don't trust anyone at this point! I'm not in the mood to call Jason or anyone at this point but I do know one thing......some peeps are pretty pissed off about MONEY that they donated and money that was donated to drivers for points in lieu of money paid to the driver for sponsorship. I also have heard some mention lawyers and suing, breech of contract.......etc. See where this cluster muck got to? It's a bad situation for many involved.
I still would like to believe that maybe someday SR will be back but I'm not going to hold my breath!
Well I agree that its tough to believe anyone, I also am big enough to say that I think your wise not to trust anyone right now. This is a big mess, and those that donated money towards a goal that was not realized have reason to be ticked off. Personally I dont see a lawsuit unless its a class action and the stakes would be more than the dollars not used. I say this because while to me it is a sizable amount of money I doubt that any lawyer would take the case IMO
I think SR will be back it will just be a matter of who is running it and if the name can be resurrected.
I have hung my personal opinion on Jason's side of this based off of how things fit together with everything else. I hope that I am right but it is a mess for sure. It would be nice to have some concrete evidence but I dont so i will have faith. For know that is all any of us can do, I just want to see at a minimum either the outstanding parts issued and dollars donated either used for the parts or returned if they were not used.
Jeremy
Jeremy
Well, I gave it some thought and decided to post this. I didn't really want to get into the "who's right and who's wrong" discussion, but some replies here have forced me to. You guys need to ask yourself, who built the website to where it is today(maybe not today, but you know what I mean)? Who befriended the racers who came to the forums? Who was on nearly every day answering questions? Why would Jason feel the need to jeopardize SR? You know the answers to these questions, and it should tell you who you should believe.
I dont want in the whole who is right and wrong deal but i do know that i did talk to jason one time and he seemed to me as if here was a stand up kinda guy. As far as will and brian or who ever was left at sr i didnt care for the attitude problem they have There was no call for them to be on there displaying a poor attitude for ppl being upset they should have delt with it acording to the circumstances and not been trying to hide things from ppl I would however like to hear both sides of the story and make my own decision. For any of them to earn my respect they will have to make right by what was not done there was a lot of young kids on the site who devoted there time to it and got nothing from it. What did that teach those kids? It touhgt them to not trust ppl and that this is a normal thing well its not and its wrong! Even the adults there spent there time and what ppl say is its only time well wrong again!!! The time i was on there was time i could have spent with my kids playing around or doing what ever they wanted to and just spending quality time with them and thats what they took from me not money To me money is a lesser matter not so much woth the argument its the lies and deceit that bothers me. I say what i mean and i mean what i say. I wont tell you i am doing one thing and do another. If i cant do what you want i would just come out and tell ya that and get it over with not drag it on. Thats where they lost my respect These are just my thoughts and oppinions
And......I still have no F'in clue as to what's going on! I hear bits and pieces and I don't trust anyone at this point! I'm not in the mood to call Jason or anyone at this point but I do know one thing......some peeps are pretty pissed off about MONEY that they donated and money that was donated to drivers for points in lieu of money paid to the driver for sponsorship. I also have heard some mention lawyers and suing, breech of contract.......etc. See where this cluster muck got to? It's a bad situation for many involved.
I still would like to believe that maybe someday SR will be back but I'm not going to hold my breath!
Well I agree that its tough to believe anyone, I also am big enough to say that I think your wise not to trust anyone right now. This is a big mess, and those that donated money towards a goal that was not realized have reason to be ticked off. Personally I dont see a lawsuit unless its a class action and the stakes would be more than the dollars not used. I say this because while to me it is a sizable amount of money I doubt that any lawyer would take the case IMO
I think SR will be back it will just be a matter of who is running it and if the name can be resurrected.
I have hung my personal opinion on Jason's side of this based off of how things fit together with everything else. I hope that I am right but it is a mess for sure. It would be nice to have some concrete evidence but I dont so i will have faith. For know that is all any of us can do, I just want to see at a minimum either the outstanding parts issued and dollars donated either used for the parts or returned if they were not used.
Jeremy
Jeremy
Well, I gave it some thought and decided to post this. I didn't really want to get into the "who's right and who's wrong" discussion, but some replies here have forced me to. You guys need to ask yourself, who built the website to where it is today(maybe not today, but you know what I mean)? Who befriended the racers who came to the forums? Who was on nearly every day answering questions? Why would Jason feel the need to jeopardize SR? You know the answers to these questions, and it should tell you who you should believe.
I dont want in the whole who is right and wrong deal but i do know that i did talk to jason one time and he seemed to me as if here was a stand up kinda guy. As far as will and brian or who ever was left at sr i didnt care for the attitude problem they have There was no call for them to be on there displaying a poor attitude for ppl being upset they should have delt with it acording to the circumstances and not been trying to hide things from ppl I would however like to hear both sides of the story and make my own decision. For any of them to earn my respect they will have to make right by what was not done there was a lot of young kids on the site who devoted there time to it and got nothing from it. What did that teach those kids? It touhgt them to not trust ppl and that this is a normal thing well its not and its wrong! Even the adults there spent there time and what ppl say is its only time well wrong again!!! The time i was on there was time i could have spent with my kids playing around or doing what ever they wanted to and just spending quality time with them and thats what they took from me not money To me money is a lesser matter not so much woth the argument its the lies and deceit that bothers me. I say what i mean and i mean what i say. I wont tell you i am doing one thing and do another. If i cant do what you want i would just come out and tell ya that and get it over with not drag it on. Thats where they lost my respect These are just my thoughts and oppinions
Well being that I haven't heard Jason's side or even got any resemblance of a story........and seeing what I saw the last 2 days on the forum, I honestly can't say who I'd trust right now. I know what you guys are telling me. I've spoken with Jason before also and he seemed like a cool dude. He didn't seem shady and I KNOW shady! As far as Will and Brian's attitudes the last few days....what do you expect from a couple of "KIDS" that are under the gun? As far as talking to them I honestly think the tidbits I did hear about those convos....they are are full of shit. Someone please give me the 411 on everything, please! _________________ Rob Gray
#17g Berlin Raceway Prostock
www.kbmotorsports17g.com www.myspace.com/kbmotorsports17g
And......I still have no F'in clue as to what's going on! I hear bits and pieces and I don't trust anyone at this point! I'm not in the mood to call Jason or anyone at this point but I do know one thing......some peeps are pretty pissed off about MONEY that they donated and money that was donated to drivers for points in lieu of money paid to the driver for sponsorship. I also have heard some mention lawyers and suing, breech of contract.......etc. See where this cluster muck got to? It's a bad situation for many involved.
I still would like to believe that maybe someday SR will be back but I'm not going to hold my breath!
Well I agree that its tough to believe anyone, I also am big enough to say that I think your wise not to trust anyone right now. This is a big mess, and those that donated money towards a goal that was not realized have reason to be ticked off. Personally I dont see a lawsuit unless its a class action and the stakes would be more than the dollars not used. I say this because while to me it is a sizable amount of money I doubt that any lawyer would take the case IMO
I think SR will be back it will just be a matter of who is running it and if the name can be resurrected.
I have hung my personal opinion on Jason's side of this based off of how things fit together with everything else. I hope that I am right but it is a mess for sure. It would be nice to have some concrete evidence but I dont so i will have faith. For know that is all any of us can do, I just want to see at a minimum either the outstanding parts issued and dollars donated either used for the parts or returned if they were not used.
Jeremy
Jeremy
Well, I gave it some thought and decided to post this. I didn't really want to get into the "who's right and who's wrong" discussion, but some replies here have forced me to. You guys need to ask yourself, who built the website to where it is today(maybe not today, but you know what I mean)? Who befriended the racers who came to the forums? Who was on nearly every day answering questions? Why would Jason feel the need to jeopardize SR? You know the answers to these questions, and it should tell you who you should believe.
I dont want in the whole who is right and wrong deal but i do know that i did talk to jason one time and he seemed to me as if here was a stand up kinda guy. As far as will and brian or who ever was left at sr i didnt care for the attitude problem they have There was no call for them to be on there displaying a poor attitude for ppl being upset they should have delt with it acording to the circumstances and not been trying to hide things from ppl I would however like to hear both sides of the story and make my own decision. For any of them to earn my respect they will have to make right by what was not done there was a lot of young kids on the site who devoted there time to it and got nothing from it. What did that teach those kids? It touhgt them to not trust ppl and that this is a normal thing well its not and its wrong! Even the adults there spent there time and what ppl say is its only time well wrong again!!! The time i was on there was time i could have spent with my kids playing around or doing what ever they wanted to and just spending quality time with them and thats what they took from me not money To me money is a lesser matter not so much woth the argument its the lies and deceit that bothers me. I say what i mean and i mean what i say. I wont tell you i am doing one thing and do another. If i cant do what you want i would just come out and tell ya that and get it over with not drag it on. Thats where they lost my respect These are just my thoughts and oppinions
Well being that I haven't heard Jason's side or even got any resemblance of a story........and seeing what I saw the last 2 days on the forum, I honestly can't say who I'd trust right now. I know what you guys are telling me. I've spoken with Jason before also and he seemed like a cool dude. He didn't seem shady and I KNOW shady! As far as Will and Brian's attitudes the last few days....what do you expect from a couple of "KIDS" that are under the gun? As far as talking to them I honestly think the tidbits I did hear about those convos....they are are full of shit. Someone please give me the 411 on everything, please!
all in all it sounds like revenge more than anything.
Will says that since the deal where they turned the points off, Jason has gone of the deep end, hes doing crack, sneaking money out of SR to pay for child support from a past relationship, he blew up at his dad, Brian, everyone and ultimately just signed it away.
I talked to Jason, and they banned me for it, calling me a snitch when I didnt even tell Jason their story, i just asked questions about it, and he answered what I feel truthfully, they banned me from the forums, so I talked to jason from noon to 3pm saturday about it via text message, I will post them if anybody is intrested.
Jason said that he swears on the life of his son that he has never done drugs. Brian, I think, is sueing a car dealerships employee for Man on Man harrasment, and Jason knowing that this never happened, agreed to testify for him, its been a couple months, and Jason told me he made it known to Brian that he was going to reveal all to the courts about the deal even though that could mean jail time for him.
He claims that at the SR party, Brian offered him a line, and he said know, in fact, even told him to leave the property.
He also claims that his wife has an allergy, and has been scratching alot because of it, and one day Will took her outside and accused her of doing drugs, evidently she just laughed because she never has.
thats all that I know, and Ill plainly say that I take Jason's side.
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 161 Location: Thomasville, NC
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:01 am Post subject:
off_road_4_me wrote:
Brian, I think, is sueing a car dealerships employee for Man on Man harrasment, and Jason knowing that this never happened, agreed to testify for him, its been a couple months, and Jason told me he made it known to Brian that he was going to reveal all to the courts about the deal even though that could mean jail time for him.
What a piece of work... Basically ruining someone to make a quick buck is how I see it.
off_road_4_me wrote:
He claims that at the SR party, Brian offered him a line, and he said know, in fact, even told him to leave the property.
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